Some of society's problems that concern you?

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That's why I was kinda confused.

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But is identity politics really the same as hedonism?
I mean, to be sure the current issues with the authoritarian right VS the PC left represent a malignant cancer consuming the american political landscape, but it's not really hedonism at all, more a neo-tribalism that's taken shape; wherein pundits are more concerned with the team they're playing for than the actual issues, congregating in these gigantic echo chambers that reinforce and radicalize popular ideas while drowning out silencing dissent.  In some cases to the point of suicide if Tumblr's any metric to go by.

(I love the jab at 8chan by the way)

Domestic violence. The act of causing physical harm to someone you're supposed to love and cherish. The person you're supposed to protect. I can't possibly imagine living with myself knowing that I hurt the person I love - being forever alone is a more appealing prospect.

The criminal stigma of drugs in our society. Vices Are Not Crimes - Lysander Spooner.

Corruption of government in our society. Private bankers own the world. EX The Federal Reserve.

The deception and promotion of ignorance in our society. EX Mass Media (which in america 90% of is owned by only 6 different corporations), The DARK act, etc.

The state manipulated racial division in our society. Divide and Conquer.

                                                          Jet Fuel Cant Melt Steel Beams

The good ol' War on Drugs here in the US. Legalize weed, it's a recreational drug that is effectively less toxic on society than alcohol. Look into helping and rehabilitating repeated offenders of harder drugs (Meth, Heroin, Cocaine, etc), instead of locking them up in a volatile prison environment.

For-Profit Prison System. Hitting on this because it makes the idea of helping and rehabilitating people a mere dream. With prisons needing to meet quotas just so they keep their cash machine working. It's bullshit. Instead of funding for-profit prisons states should create and maintain their own, while taking funding from the war on drugs and for-profit prisons to help rehabilitate people.

I have now tried for several minutes to begin a reply and specify one mark on society that we should improve on. I could not seem to come down to one problem but several.
Of course saying that, it will definitely include politics, power and religion.

But all of those three are marks that will never change no matter how much you pressure it.
I can't be the person to specify one problem nor several, I would rather suggest we discover them before focusing on wide subbed themes.

Now, trying to define yourself is like trying to bite your own teeth, but if you try and define society you will see and discover numberous things that are bad and good such as violence, abuse of drugs and so on.

But from a strictly scientific point of view there really is nothing wrong with the world. It is just how people see it and keep doing it after generations.

Let us make a scenario then, ok?

Let us say 5 monkeys were in a cave, the cave was empty and had one banana in the top of a ladder. The first monkey that went up to grab the banana wanted it for just well basic reasons of selfishness which is basic and common sense. The other monkey however were watered with cold water making them hurt in a phsical and mental way.
Then when the monkey went down he got dragged into a shame way of society that surrounded him considering the brain that the monkey had as they were calculating whether what his actions did made an effect towards the other ones.

Next day another monkey goes for the banana and the same happens, he gets the banana but is beaten when he comes down as the others are making a mark stating that if he climbs the latter to achieve a banana he will cause others harm. Now he understood that.

So it went on till the last and every monkey knew going up on the ladder is basically causing them trouble. The scientists changed their strategy by going by generation and tradition. Each 3 days the changed one of the older monkies that had been there and abused another monkey. While changing monkies the new ones adapted to the tradition of beating up every person going up the ladder. This went on and at the end there was only "new" monkies left knowing that if you climb the ladder you will get beaten.
While at the same time every other monkey in there that was also "new" knew that they had to beat up their friend going up the ladder but they had no idea why BECAUSE no new monkey tried to climb and as a result there were no more actions towards the "new" monkies as they had just adapted from their previous generation.

It is weird how society adapts to laws and rules and obeys them but nobody can really strictly say "why" it would be followed such as judgement.
Too much trouble considering society.

First step is to get to know your own boundaries and know that you have a limited time and be okey with death and so on and forget that it is "painful" because it is not painful, it is the society around you that you have adapted to, that has said that it hurts to lose someone. To lose someone hurts for you and you only considering your own pain.

Oh god I went off-topic there for a second so excuse me.

Work on ourselves a bit before we judge the society but if I was to mark down one thing strictly

It would be by long shot , globalwarming.

Now excuse me for my philosophical stands.

First of all; sorry for my bad english

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If I have learned something from maths is that only formal proofs are objetive. Everything that is not a proof is subjetive, and that includes every single post on this thread (this one included oc). I have readed the whole thread and it has a miriad of diferent subjetive opinions. So, I totally agree with you in the point that to judge the world, we must first knew ourselves very well.

Here's what concerns me:

Spain's current political situation
Migration crisis from an economic perspective
Rising of extreme political ideologies
Political correctness and SJWs
Third wave feminism
Education
Lack of science funding
Labor intrusion in CS (Is not the same to program than to develop software)
Politicization of sexual freedom (LGBTwhatever)

You guys ever been by Englewood? South side of Chicago? I have. Lived there. Not for long, but I lived there.

It's a catastrophe. First, all the jobs move to the suburbs because land's cheaper there. Suddenly, half the neighborhood's lost their jobs. Sure, there's still other jobs to take, but they pay minimum wage. You can't feed your kids on minimum wage. You check in with DHS and get on welfare. Or maybe you don't. Maybe you do some hustling on the side; move some guns, sell some drugs, make some good money. It's all illegal, of course, and the black market is competetive, but you can afford to live. The neighborhood goes to shit. Everyone who can afford to moves out because there's gangs on every corner. Property values drop. Property values plummet. Half the homes around you are boarded up, and the city government won't pay to fix your fucking sidewalks because you don't pay enough property taxes. Jobs start to dry up even more because there's fewer people living there. Nobody wants to invest, either. And can you blame them? Soon enough the gangs are about the only way to make good money, so damn near everyone's in them. The police crack down; they start to get rid of the gangs, alright, but in the process they're gutting the community. Soon enough, so many buildings are abandoned that there's an entire cottage industry dedicated to stripping delapidated structures of their scrap metal.

That's Englewood. It's that part of the greatest city in America that America abandoned and left to rot. It all happened in a couple generations. The only reason that anyone still lives there is because of the welfare system. Of course, they could get rid of it altogether and clear Englewood out in a matter of years, but that means people starve, get sent out on the streets, that there's even more crime.

You can't do anything about Englewood. Can't fix it, can't let it die.

I knew some guys there. Some good people. In distant memories, Englewood was fucking beautiful. It pisses me off that such a beautiful place turned into such a horrible one.

It pisses me off that we use a system where such a thing would even be possible.

bpseudopod wrote

You guys ever been by Englewood? South side of Chicago? I have. Lived there. Not for long, but I lived there.

It's a catastrophe. First, all the jobs move to the suburbs because land's cheaper there. Suddenly, half the neighborhood's lost their jobs. Sure, there's still other jobs to take, but they pay minimum wage. You can't feed your kids on minimum wage. You check in with DHS and get on welfare. Or maybe you don't. Maybe you do some hustling on the side; move some guns, sell some drugs, make some good money. It's all illegal, of course, and the black market is competetive, but you can afford to live. The neighborhood goes to shit. Everyone who can afford to moves out because there's gangs on every corner. Property values drop. Property values plummet. Half the homes around you are boarded up, and the city government won't pay to fix your fucking sidewalks because you don't pay enough property taxes. Jobs start to dry up even more because there's fewer people living there. Nobody wants to invest, either. And can you blame them? Soon enough the gangs are about the only way to make good money, so damn near everyone's in them. The police crack down; they start to get rid of the gangs, alright, but in the process they're gutting the community. Soon enough, so many buildings are abandoned that there's an entire cottage industry dedicated to stripping delapidated structures of their scrap metal.

That's Englewood. It's that part of the greatest city in America that America abandoned and left to rot. It all happened in a couple generations. The only reason that anyone still lives there is because of the welfare system. Of course, they could get rid of it altogether and clear Englewood out in a matter of years, but that means people starve, get sent out on the streets, that there's even more crime.

You can't do anything about Englewood. Can't fix it, can't let it die.

I knew some guys there. Some good people. In distant memories, Englewood was fucking beautiful. It pisses me off that such a beautiful place turned into such a horrible one.

It pisses me off that we use a system where such a thing would even be possible.

And this is what happens when companies put profits ahead of people. Good job, capitalism.

You're over talking about how we rely too much on oil and I'm just thinking that society's worst problem is shit like the dab
Everytime I see that I want to die.

I can't stand how people are obessed with things that ultimately mean absolutely nothing in life.

People dedicate so much time to being spiteful and unambitious instead of exploring the wonders of the world.

Nobody really cares about being innovative, creative, or just helping the progression of humanity.

Today a man announced his plan to send humans to Mars within the next few decades, but very few care. Everyone is too busy creating Trump memes or sending stupid pictures via Snapchat.

The way people treat other people and strangers. Just because I can't lift a 100 pound bookshelf to your car alone doesn't make me a "little bitch" and I shouldn't be fired just because you can't be half-assed to help me.

floattube wrote

The way people treat other people and strangers. Just because I can't lift a 100 pound bookshelf to your car alone doesn't make me a "little bitch" and I shouldn't be fired just because you can't be half-assed to help me.

Bad day, huh?

Backlash wrote

floattube wrote

The way people treat other people and strangers. Just because I can't lift a 100 pound bookshelf to your car alone doesn't make me a "little bitch" and I shouldn't be fired just because you can't be half-assed to help me.

Bad day, huh?

Nah this is every day at work. I just live in a shitty area with shitty people. I just felt like finally getting it off my chest. I don't get a chance to talk about it because I am told to "man up" or "stop being a pussy" a lot. Granted this is coming from people who drink their pain away.

floattube wrote

Backlash wrote

floattube wrote

The way people treat other people and strangers. Just because I can't lift a 100 pound bookshelf to your car alone doesn't make me a "little bitch" and I shouldn't be fired just because you can't be half-assed to help me.

Bad day, huh?

Granted this is coming from people who drink their pain away.

Makes fun of people for complaining about hardships in life
Resorts to psychoactive substances to deal with their own

People like that oughta jump off the nearest cliff. I'm so sorry.

Backlash wrote

floattube wrote

Backlash wrote

floattube wrote

The way people treat other people and strangers. Just because I can't lift a 100 pound bookshelf to your car alone doesn't make me a "little bitch" and I shouldn't be fired just because you can't be half-assed to help me.

Bad day, huh?

Granted this is coming from people who drink their pain away.

Makes fun of people for complaining about hardships in life
Resorts to psychoactive substances to deal with their own

People like that oughta jump off the nearest cliff. I'm so sorry.

Also if I try to defend myself I end up looking like this:
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But anyway, I'm just gonna end this here. I don't wanna use a forum to whine
(my friend sent this to me, i just realized the 9gag thing don't lynch me pls)

Fact that people still believe the wage gap myth is real, "safe zones," and the fact that everything gets blown out of proportion 

Its the feel when u got rejected by the society
(e.g : you are poor & ur friends are rich af and being a cunt)

and also somewhat interaction problem because you are mute...

its depressing

One of socieities biggest problems that troubles me is the lack of research people do and the knowledge they acquire.

I think a lot of people who get tatoos all over their body, dye their hair, and listen to trap music despite living in the suburbs are going to feel awkward when they reach senior age.

see: Corey Feldman

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Society's nearsighted bias towards any type of world issue is a big no-no.

It's hard for people to understand what life is like in other parts of the world when they're so detached from it. It's easier for people like us who are used to interacting with people all over the world and seeing all kinds of perspectives, but for Dale Everyman who has a 9-5 desk job and comes home to teach his son how to play baseball, the $0.20 increase in gas prices is a bit more concerning than the kids getting shot up in Syria.

Americans have a bigger problem with this I think because we're so far away from any other major countries. In Europe you can meet people from multiple different countries and cultures just by going for a drive, but here I'd have to travel overseas or a couple thousand miles down to mexico. Personally I haven't traveled farther than one state over in the past 12 or so years.

I don't really know how to fix it though. It's easy to say globalization is better for the world, but Dale doesn't want his jobs being outsourced to India.
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