I'm stepping down.

tbh nana, there's no use trying to explain to them. they'll find something else and circlejerk it, like always.

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And who ever said that we are bound to our position? Do you think I'd agree to become a mod if I had to sign with my blood that I won't ever quit it? Visiting Lewd is my free choice of will, being a mod is a chance I've been given, taking it was also my free choice. I don't see any cyro lying around saying I've sold my soul to Senpai, now, do I? If I think being a mod is hard on me and my mind, stepping down is the most logical choice to make - and if I see that the team is facing a problem without me, coming back to fill in the void is also the most logical choice to make. You seem to think holding a position on an online forum strips us off our freedom, and for the nth time already, I repeat - it doesn't. If you think we're just sitting high up at the Olympus watching over the peasants playing around, we're not. We're serving the community. And if the community argues about that, imagine, how do we feel?
I do care about my function, that's exactly why I took the time to lay it off, ease my mind and think carefully whether or not I deserve it. And seeing quite a few things going on right when I was a normal member again did not make me feel well as I was. I just threw more work on the rest of the team instead of helping them.

>Also please tell me how you stepping down as a mod and you stepping back up are unrelated, seems pretty related to me.
Me stepping down and stepping back up were done for two unrelated reasons. While stepping down I cared mostly about my own well-being and my acceptance among the community; stepping back up was done because: 1) I received feedback from other staff and some members, 2) I noticed a significant downside to my stepping down, which is the gap in the hours covered by the staff team, 3) two issues I've had before, still as a mod, being completely gone. I no longer care about my own state of mind or how the community sees me - I want to help this community, so I'm back among the staff.

I think it's only logical that you're bound to it to some degree. I'm not saying that you can't ever leave or come back. I'm just saying that you shouldn't come or go as you please all the time because you won't be taken seriously among other things. You're really twisting my words here. I never said that have to do this or that. I'm just saying that I'd rather not have it.  My original post might have put it a little more bluntly but that doesn't change it.
I don't think it strips you off your freedom. Will you stop twisting my words?
You could have just announced you were taking a break instead of telling us you' were stepping down.

1) I received feedback from other staff and some members,
You did get a lot of feedback from other members, we had an entire thread about it remember? We voted and the results were in favor of you staying. Yet you still stepped down some days later.

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I'd hate to have to point out that harassing a staff member falls under the same
  rule as harassing a normal member does.

You can believe what you like with your immature mind, nana needed and had a break;
  nothing to it.

I'm personally getting sick of the lack of respect for the community and the unwarranted
  contempt shown towards staff.

Well it's a good thing nobody's getting harassed then is it?

I don't know who you're calling immature here, but if it's me than I see that as harassment. If Nana needed a break he/she could've just told us instead of stepping down entirely, especially after the situation with @rii.

And I'm getting sick of the lack of respect you show towards us, the community, but that's probably just my immature, circlejerking mind, is it?

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I think it's only logical that you're bound to it to some degree. I'm not saying
that you can't ever leave or come back. I'm just saying that you shouldn't come
or go as you please all the time because you won't be taken seriously among other
things. You're really twisting my words here. I never said that have to do this
or that. I'm just saying that I'd rather not have it. My original post might have
put it a little more bluntly but that doesn't change it.
I don't think it strips you off your freedom. Will you stop twisting my words?
You could have just announced you were taking a break yet instead of telling us
you're stepping down.

1) I received feedback from other staff and some members,
You did get a lot of feedback from other members, we had an entire thread about
it remember? We voted and the results were in favor of you staying. Yet you still
stepped down some days later.

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I'd hate to have to point out that harassing a staff member falls under the same
rule as harassing a normal member does.

You can believe what you like with your immature mind, nana needed and had a break;
nothing to it.

I'm personally getting sick of the lack of respect for the community and the unwarranted
contempt shown towards staff.

Well it's a good thing nobody's getting harassed then is it?

I don't know who you're calling immature here, but if it's me than I see that as
harassment. If Nana needed a break he/she could've just told us instead of stepping
down entirely, especially after the situation with @rii.

And I'm getting sick of the lack of respect you show towards us, the community,
but that's probably just my immature, circlejerking mind, is it?

I agree whole heartedly, we're just being written off as circle jerkers with a lack of respect for the staff.
Respect needs to be earned and kept, you don't keep respect by dropping in and out regularly and when Nanashi made the descision to stay, he left, but when he made the desecion to leave, he still stayed. And why did he have to come back? Senpai says that he just needed a break yet Nanashi himself says that Lewd was undermoderated and they needed another mod. This shows lack of communication between the staff and a serious problem with the amount of staff members, if someone plans to leave the staff, yet he feels the need to come back due to lack of staff. Isn't that showing some seriously instable staff orginazation? But what annoys me the most is that when people complain in a mostly normal way, it might have been blunt but just becuase of that we're stupid people who wouldn't care about an explanation? And you think it's a problem you don't get enough respect, I might have some theories on why that is.

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Well it's a good thing nobody's getting harassed then is it?

I'd call it harassment when you're intentionally going out of your way to poke fun at nana.

I don't know who you're calling immature here, but if it's me than I see that as harassment.
If you're acting immature, it's not harassment to label you as acting immature.

If Nana needed a break he/she could've just told us instead of stepping down entirely, especially after the situation with @rii.

Lastly, I just wanna say I still want to help out the forum, so nothing is set in stone yet. I will keep on introducing my ideas, keep on being active - even more so now I'm no longer a moderator. I just wanna thank everyone that encouraged me on my journey so far, but for now, this is as far as I go. I can't be a staff member until I'm ready to become one, and being one until now was a pleasant experiment that I did not deserve. Should I ever deserve this title, I'll be happy to look you in the faces again and carry on with that duty, but until that day comes, I will just be your ordinary based nana.

The last paragraph pretty much implies that nana had the intention of one day returning to his staff position.

And I'm getting sick of the lack of respect you show towards us, the community, but that's probably just my immature, circlejerking mind, is it?
I don't treat anyone with disrespect until they show disrespect themselves.

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Respect needs to be earned and kept, you don't keep respect by dropping in and out regularly
A loss of respect is no excuse to harass someone for the actions you disagree with.

when Nanashi made the descision to stay, he left, but when he made the desecion to leave, he still stayed. And why did he have to come back?
I don't see the issue here, people are not allowed to change their mind?

Senpai says that he just needed a break yet Nanashi himself says that Lewd was undermoderated and they needed another mod.
I think it would be fairly obvious that if one mod stepped down, we'd need another mod.

This shows lack of communication between the staff and a serious problem with the amount of staff members, if someone plans to leave the staff, yet he feels the need to come back due to lack of staff. Isn't that showing some seriously instable staff orginazation?
Not particularly, we were temporarily down one mod and were seeking one when nana came back. Sometimes things take time to transition.

But what annoys me the most is that when people complain in a mostly normal way, it might have been blunt but just becuase of that we're stupid people who wouldn't care about an explanation? And you think it's a problem you don't get enough respect, I might have some theories on why that is.
It's nothing about the complaining that causes my loss of respect, it's the way that it's being done that does.

Can someone do me a favor and explain how a post like any of the following is a reasonable complaint and not an attempt to bait some sort of reaction from nana?

oh so it was pointless forum drama as usual

Can anyone tell me which staff member is going to leave next? Can you also tell me when he/she is coming back again?

It seems like we've got a trend going on.

Waiting for the next emotional breakdown thread saying he leaves again lol.

What people do for attention..

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I wouldn't call it harassment, and I know that legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com and Mirriam Webster do so too.

So showing my frustration in a satirical way and then having a civilized discussion about it is immature now? I guess that lowers the bar for immaturity quite a bit doesn't it?

I still think Nanashi should've given it more time. Knowing how being part of the staff made nana feel, I think there's a good possibility that he will leave again in the coming few weeks. That quote also implies that he won't return so soon. "when that day comes" doesn't exactly make me think it'll be in the coming two weeks. I don't think anyone thought that.

But still, evidence is what it is so I guess you're right to some degree. I still stand by my point though. Nanashi could've just taken a break, this is one step too far.

And by the way, I don't think fighting disrespect with disrespect is the right thing to do as an admin. It doesn't exactly help. Take my advice if you want to.

Inkjet Printer wrote

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I wouldn't call it harassment, and I know that legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com and Mirriam Webster do so too.

So showing my frustration in a satirical way and then having a civilized discussion about it is immature now? I guess that lowers the bar for immaturity quite a bit doesn't it?

I still think Nanashi should've given it more time.  Knowing how being part of the staff made nana feel, I think there's a good possibility that he will leave again in the coming few weeks. That quote also implies that he won't return so soon. "when that day comes" doesn't exactly make me think it'll be in the coming two weeks. I don't think anyone thought that.

But still, evidence is what it is so I guess you're right to some degree. I still stand by my point though. Nanashi could've just taken a break, this is one step too far.

And by the way, I don't think fighting disrespect with disrespect is the right thing to do as an admin. It doesn't exactly help. Take my advice if you want to.

Who would take the advice of an inferior tomato?

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Who would take the advice of an inferior tomato?

lmao

i'd close this thread t b h i m h o f a m l o l r i p

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Nice ad hominem there. But I'll have you know tomatoes are superior in both tastiness and health benefits.

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Respect needs to be earned and kept, you don't keep respect by dropping in and out
regularly
A loss of respect is no excuse to harass someone for the actions you disagree with.

When did I harass Nananashi? If you're going to direct me to my joke about dominating the world, that wasn't harassment at all, it was a joke.

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when Nanashi made the descision to stay, he left, but when he made the desecion
to leave, he still stayed. And why did he have to come back?
I don't see the issue here, people are not allowed to change their mind?

Nanashi is completely allowed to, but these kind of actions have consequences, in this case I lost my respect for Nanashi as a mod.

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Senpai says that he just needed a break yet Nanashi himself says that Lewd was undermoderated
and they needed another mod.
I think it would be fairly obvious that if one mod stepped down, we'd need another
mod.

Yeah, another mod but you took the same person in again and if you can't even lose one person in the staff, what would happen when someone went on vacation? If the problem now was already big enough for Nanashi to have to return, what would happen if someone went on vacation for 2 weeks?

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This shows lack of communication between the staff and a serious problem with the
amount of staff members, if someone plans to leave the staff, yet he feels the need
to come back due to lack of staff. Isn't that showing some seriously instable staff
orginazation?
Not particularly, we were temporarily down one mod and were seeking one when nana
came back. Sometimes things take time to transition.

But if in this time to transition, the problem was critical enough for someone who stated that he didn't want to be a mod anymore, or at least until he was ready to become one, which wouldn't take this short amount of time.

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But what annoys me the most is that when people complain in a mostly normal way,
it might have been blunt but just becuase of that we're stupid people who wouldn't
care about an explanation? And you think it's a problem you don't get enough respect,
I might have some theories on why that is.
It's nothing about the complaining that causes my loss of respect, it's the way that
it's being done that does.

Well then, instead of just saying I'm a dingus, tell me what I did wrong when I stated my complaint?

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oh so it was pointless forum drama as usual
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Can anyone tell me which staff member is going to leave next? Can you also tell me
when he/she is coming back again?
It seems like we've got a trend going on.
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Waiting for the next emotional breakdown thread saying he leaves again lol.
What people do for attention..

Sure these were stabs at Nanashi, but just becuase they have a stab at Nanashi they or anyone else who think what happened was stupid even without stabbing at them are cicrle jerkers? So if you ever agree with me and I say, the people who don't agree should start cliping their toe nails and taking these clipping and use them to poke their eyes out, you shouldn't be taken seriously? Becuase your problem with my complaint seems to be that other people whom I agree with posted something rather blunt. I do think in some of these cases it was dickish and could have been said better, they were showing their frustration in a satirical way becuase it annoyed them. And becuase of that my arguments have been invalidated?

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Nice ad hominem there. But I'll have you know tomatoes are superior in both tastiness
and health benefits.

we out here using fallacies now

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no sorry

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no b8 I was just bluntly stating my views on the matter. there seems to be some idea among the staff that bluntness = harassment/bulli/ban and it's really fucking stupid. I'd go so far as to equate it to sjw behavior

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there's a difference between being blunt and being a dickhead

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if you thought what I said in this thread was just "being a dickhead" then I really don't trust you to know the difference

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if you thought the few times you were banned were because you were being "blunt", then i really don't trust you to know the difference

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there seems to be some idea among the staff that bluntness = harassment/bulli/ban
bluntness = harassment/bulli/ban
harassment/bulli/ban
ban

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or maybe, and I know this'll sound crazy
but maybe I thought harassment and bullying were against the rules and would get you banned