[RANT] Can we PLEASE keep politics to their respective subforums?

19971
Either ban all politics, or don't ban any politics, left-wing ideas are as political as right wing ones, evne if not "propaganda".
Personal stances on anti-racist organisations aside, if you want to discuss that it's better to do it in a less hysterical context (start another thread).

Hugboxes where everyone's feelings are safeguarded are a lot worse than places with light-hearted (and probably not so much) banter.
Politics are polarising, this does not mean either position should be suppressed, if you have to do it, acting like a cunt is what should be banned, not disagreeing with affirmative action, privilege theory, or anything of the sort.

19971
You're assuming personal attacks where there are none.
Criticizing actions is not criticizing people. Banning speech out of feelings is disgusting, end of.

lithium wrote

19971
Either ban all politics, or don't ban any politics, left-wing ideas are as political as right wing ones, evne if not "propaganda".
Personal stances on anti-racist organisations aside, if you want to discuss that it's better to do it in a less hysterical context (start another thread).

Hugboxes where everyone's feelings are safeguarded are a lot worse than places with light-hearted (and probably not so much) banter.
Politics are polarising, this does not mean either position should be suppressed, if you have to do it, acting like a cunt is what should be banned, not disagreeing with affirmative action, privilege theory, or anything of the sort.

I think I maybe wasn't clear. I'm in favor of banning all politics that aren't in ebola or politics threads.

EDIT: So do we pretty much agree on that point?

I really don't understand why we need to openly discuss politics in the first place on a forum about lewd anime girls. It doesn't really make sense to drop that the latest genocide in "x" was caused by "x" when people were just discussing what anime to watch a few minutes ago.

You might be entitled to whatever you'd like to say, but think about it - there's much better avenues on where to discuss them. I'm all for free speech and uncensored discussion, but I also agree that politics should be kept to a minimum outside their respective channels and subforums. If you think there's not enough people to discuss about it, start recruiting for the channel/group, or look for more dedicated forums for said topics.

Of course, it's inevitable that it might leak into #general or The Lounge every so often, but that doesn't mean we have to outright stop it on the spot, so long as it stays civil and respectful like any other discussion. If people seem uncomfortable on a certain topic, then it's on you to ease up on it.

19986
Many matters end up on the political without an express aim.
People's views on sexuality, race, gender identity are going to "cause discomfort" even when somebody isn't meaning to start a discussion about the matter.

It's seriously doubtful that banning "political" posts in a social context where everything's political works.

How about you stop posting about a subject outside of the clearly defined area created to cater to your subject? Or is that concept too difficult for you to comprehend?

lithium wrote

19986
Many matters end up on the political without an express aim.
People's views on sexuality, race, gender identity are going to "cause discomfort" even when somebody isn't meaning to start a discussion about the matter.

It's seriously doubtful that banning "political" posts in a social context where everything's political works.

Taking it to the extreme is not the point. It would make no sense to ban any talk about sexuality in a lewd forum. The point, I think, is keeping Jewish conspiracies and opinions of Immigrants to appropriate sections.

How about we all just chill? Aside from this thread the forum is very relaxed and on point, don't know about discord though; as I'm not on there.

19997
Where did anybody mention jewish conspiracies on this forum

the point, I think, is

There's no "point", some want all hate speech banned, some want all politics banned, some want oddly off topic political statements banned. There are no propsitions, just hysterics and threats of "boycotting".

@Em. & @[deleted] Most of what people are talking about mostly refers to chats on discord, really. There hasn't been much problem as of late with the actual forum itself on this topic.

20006
The screenshots compa-waifu posted seemed pretty tame, nothing to be horrified at if you've been on an imageboard.

lithium wrote

20006
The screenshots compa-waifu posted seemed pretty tame, nothing to be horrified at if you've been on an imageboard.

Maybe, but keep in mind some people won't have an imageboard mindset - forums are meant for more in-depth discussion than imageboards.

lithium wrote

20010
But that's a chatroom.

The community uses both Discord and the forum for avenues of discussion, though. Like you said, the Jewish conspiracies thing might not be discussed on the forum, but it's been brought up in Discord a few times before.

You're right, it might not be that bad compared to being on an imageboard - but the problem being is when people think of it less like a chat and more of an imageboard with freedom to post what they will. This isn't a problem in and of itself, but when the chatroom looks like a /pol/ thread and people bring it up as an issue - like this thread - that's when it becomes a concern.

There's two issues at hand here: one is politics in the forum, which isn't much of a problem of itself - and politics in Discord. Right now, since #pol has now been brought back up again, it should be more contained within discussion.

The simple list of rules that neko proposed would work fine for chat. It's the forum that requires additional rules to keep things friendly.