Nana's demotion - voting

Hello. As you might have probably noticed by now, I'm not really cut out to be a moderator. I enforce unreasonable rules, argue out in the open, get easily provoked for meaningless discussions, that sort of thing. Because of that, each time I reach a decision regarding something, I face a constant feeling of guilt and concern - "Did I really do the right thing? Wasn't it too harsh? Or maybe I'm being unreasonable?".
Yet, over the course of last month, many people confronted me about my decision regarding demotion, and so I couldn't really make that step and get it over with. Thus, this thread was created. As a community, I feel the people should have their voice heard, and hence, I'm giving you free reign over me. What that means, is that I'll let you vote - it's up to you to decide whether or not I should be demoted, or rather kept as a moderator. I will need HONEST opinions - I have no need for sympathy, pity or sugarcoating. Hit me with whatever you've got. You don't have to worry about what you say about me - no matter what your view on me is, it won't change anything in our relationship.

This voting will last for 7 days or until 10 votes are reached in favor of one option, whichever comes first. If 7 days pass without 10 votes pro or contra, the final verdict will, regardless of the voting state, be automatically set to 'demote'.

As per any voting, here are some rules.

  • each vote has to be accompanied by a post explaining your decision. Doesn't have to be long, just has to be there and answer the question 'why?'. Two sentences or more.

  • staff votes are automatically excluded. Mainly because I already know how they feel about me.

  • to participate in the voting, your account has to be one month or older.

  • one vote per person, no second chances.

Let the voting begin.

I voted yes. I just personally feel like you can be too emotional with some of your decisions as a staff member and that it sometimes leads too people being punished for small things that I don't usually see them punished for by other staff members. Usually it's just small punishments like muting them for a while so it's not really too bad, but I still think that most of the punishments I've seen you hand out have been really emotional decisions and generally quite undeserved or "I don't like this thing so mute" which I really don't like, hence why I felt it was best to vote yes.

I've seen you argue with people for pretty silly reasons and it doesn't take much to set you off in the chat. That really doesn't have anything to do with your moderating, though - I've only seen you move threads, so I don't know if you've done anything based on your emotions.

I will say that I don't think that there should be people on the staff that aren't confident in what they're doing.

Edit: I should probably mention that I voted yes.

I voted yes, you've got a quick temper, and i don't think you'll enjoy it that much longer.

I'm voting no, I don't think you're unfounded in your arguments, and I think the rules you make are both reasonable and helpful overall.

Regardless of your decision, I hope you will stay, I enjoy talking to you and consider you a friend.

I voted no, you shouldn't demote yourself.

While yes, you do bicker sometimes (which is completely understandable and human) that doesn't mean that the other party is always right. Honestly both parties are in the wrong as when you begin to argue you've already lost control.
If you understand what I mean.

I really like you being (it's mod right? oh whatever) Nana because ever since I joined, (and while I did believe you were a girl for 4 months ._.) you've always been that cool guy I look up to. 
I'm not good with these things so sorry if my answer wasn't good enough.
I think your rules are fine?
I don't like arguments so I try not to get into them, so sorry if I'm a little dense right now.

<3

You seem to have a personal vendetta against some members. You have failed to move a conversation to the appropriate channel, and you have continued to drag an argument on rather than ending it. Your judgement is clouded by your opinion, therefore administering punishment where it is not due.
I have to vote yes, sorry.

imo votes belonging to people that have been punished by you should not count. ie. people like Uzi, who (pretty obviously) goes out of his way to piss yourself (and others) off.

Senpai wrote

imo votes belonging to people that have been punished by you should not count. ie. people like Uzi, who (pretty obviously) goes out of his way to piss yourself (and others) off.

I think everyone should be represented equally, no matter the circumstances.

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I think everyone should be represented equally, no matter the circumstances.

Staff cannot vote. Why should trolls be able to vote?

To clarify. Yes, everyone should have a fair say, but should a vote count when it's clearly biased?

Senpai wrote

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 I think everyone should be represented equally, no matter the circumstances.

Staff cannot vote. Why should trolls be able to vote?

Uzinero has made a good number of quality posts, so I wouldn't really consider them to be a troll. The staff can't vote because that's what was designated in the original post.

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To clarify. Yes, everyone should have a fair say, but should a vote count when it's
 clearly biased?

There's not a human on this earth that doesn't have some sort of bias. It's our flaw.

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His judgement stems from the experiences that he himself brought on in the Discord chat.

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That's true. But like I said, what makes my vote less valuable than someone that went out of their way to provoke Nana's vote?

Senpai wrote

imo votes belonging to people that have been punished by you should not count. ie. people like Uzi, who (pretty obviously) goes out of his way to piss yourself (and others) off.

Everyone has an opinion that matters.

I am of the opinion that this decision should be decided entirely by our staff, and not by popular vote of the general forum. The whole purpose of admins/mods is that they get the final say in important decisions, everyone else is there to provide their own suggestions and opinions to shape the community. That being said, I haven't witnessed these emotional arguments everyone is discussing here so I do not know the context or depth they hold. (I'm assuming this occurred in Discord, which I don't use anymore) I have only seen your positive side Nanashi, both as a fellow member to us and as part of the staff. So I don't feel that you deserve a demotion. However I do believe that if moderating is causing you too much stress to handle, then it might be a good idea to step down for your own personal health. I've never accepted moderator status for any community for this very reason, as I value the freedom of choice that comes with being a user over the responsibility and work that comes with moderating. I'd much rather just come and go as I please than be required to babysit everyone and enforce rules on a regular basis.

I voted no because I never really had a problem w/ you or anyone on this forum yet

>Because of that, each time I reach a decision regarding something, I face a constant feeling of guilt and concern - "Did I really do the right thing? Wasn't it too harsh? Or maybe I'm being unreasonable?".
Perhaps consulting with other mods before you delete/reply/do something that you're not too sure about might help?

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Everyone has an opinion that matters.

Agreed. If it's a public vote, everyone deserves a chance without discrimination.0

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The people governed matter just as much the governors in my opinion. It's a balance.

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imo votes belonging to people that have been punished by you should not count. ie.
people like Uzi, who (pretty obviously) goes out of his way to piss yourself (and
others) off.

I really don't understand this calling at all. I don't go "out of my way" to piss off Nana. I was posting memes in the lounge and Nana started getting pissed off. I post a video, "Calm down it was a joke." and Nana starts an arguement about jokes. I've never gone out of my way to piss Nana off.

EDIT:
I'd also like to add that it's a completely ridiculous rule. Everyone in the community should be able to post their own opinion and have it matter regardless of who they are, and exactly how do you differentiate between those punished by Nana and those who aren't. Me and Nana had an arguement, does that make my vote not count? Or was it that Nana muted me for like 30 seconds? Because if it's the former, well, that isn't even a punishment, it's just a plain old arguement, if it's the latter, does @"Saikou"'s vote count since when Nana muted me for around 30 seconds they muted Saikou too?

I just think it's really ridiculous and a very inconsistent way to decide who gets to vote when you can pick and choose the voters. At that point it's not even a vote any more, it's just "let's see who I can stop from voting so I get the result I want" which is absolutely insane.

I think that if you can't keep your emotions in check, lack the patience to deal with people, openly speak about how you dislike certain people in the community and make rules based upon personal pet-peeves rather than what's better for the morale of the community I don't think being a moderator suits you. However; I don't dislike you, I want you stay around, but in my honest opinion I don't think you're fit as a moderator.